Tulpa.info - tulpa-questions

well we are quite a minority among the world population, most people do in fact never hear about tulpas

2:09 AM

that may change in time

the less empathetic a society is, the less imagination is has

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religion is stopping this

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is this what religion is?

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people stopping you from expanding your mind

Although I should mention, a lot of people have what are basically tulpas without knowing about "tulpas", and usually not telling anyone other than maybe close friends.

this is not a religion in any way if that's what you're asking

no

2:10 AM

of course not

Lumi accidentally made me in 2009, before tulpas were really a thing on the internet, just by thinking about what I was like and imagining me speaking to him.

So you talk back?

But, we didn't find out about tulpas (and never told anyone about us((the others in our system))) until 2014

2:12 AM

Yes.. You should definitely look into what tulpas are if you're asking such a basic question.

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http://tulpa.info/

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Tulpa.Info is the leading resource for a psychological approach to the Tulpae Phenomenon.

Yeah I'm reading it right now

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the absolute guide

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just want some proof

I mean, even the guides assume you know the extreme basics that Tulpa.info itself provides.

There is a basic definition on the normal website.

cause I mean

2:12 AM

someone posted some shit

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in /r9k/ about this being a big psyop

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by some fags trying to get "beta males" out of society

There's not really much to prove, the only proof anyone really has is experiencing another person in their head.

...what on earth?

I'm going to try it anyways

there's not much beyond our own experiences we can provide for proof

2:13 AM

there's stuff like this http://i.imgur.com/wK7TU.png which provides some basis of scientific evidence I suppose

If somebody wanted to euthanize a portion of the population, tulpas are quite possibly one of the most inefficient methods to do so, even if tulpas did have negative effects that would remove a group from the world.

I don't know

2:14 AM

I think they don't know what you guys know

Anyways.. I think you'll find on https://community.tulpa.info/index.php that there are far too many conversations and Progress Reports (documents of personal experiences/progress making tulpas) for it to be... whatever it is you called it? (edited)

I trust you guys

Regarding direct proof, there is very little experimental data on tulpas themselves. However, there is related evidence suggesting that they are not only theoretically possible, but quite likely legitimate.

2:15 AM

Beyond which, in the end - the subjective experience of 'having a tulpa' is legitimate regardless, and tends to have no negative effects.

Is this what having a mind of your own is like

Refer back to this post once you've got a slightly better comprehension of what tulpas are supposed to be, for an explanation of how they exist that doesn't require you to take anything on faith. https://community.tulpa.info/thread-evidence-for-plurality-plus?pid=202547#pid202547

evidence for plurality, plus

Alright, I am leading with this completely hypothetical, speculative discourse with no attempt to find a definitive answer. This is just me wanting a discussion point because I am of off topic reading

This is what religious people have been hiding from people from centuries

2:15 AM

the cult mentality

To that extent, tulpas are in fact real and legitimate - though perhaps not necessarily in the claimed manner at first.

Alright science experiment time

2:16 AM

how many of you are liberals

Nay for all 5 of us

I honestly don't know the difference in "left" and "right" politics very well.

Exactly

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That's what I thought

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None of you are religious either right?

I couldn't say what my beliefs would be categorized as, since we more or less think for ourselves..

...as much as I disagree with religious ideas, please be at least mildly considerate of others.

Yeah, not religious. But plenty of tulpamancers are.

Exactly

I typically agree with liberal ideals moreso than conservative ones.

We lean to the right.

That being said, many Christian tulpamancers have had issues with their family when it comes to their accepting tulpas as a legitimate, non-satanic phenomenon.

Exactly

2:17 AM

That's what they want you to think

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that it's wrong

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and satanic

Not that this is the place for bashing religion, though.

believing tulpas exist and/or creating them for yourself isn't strongly correlated with any religious or political ideology

that's why the media promotes it so much

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this isn't a religion

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or an ideology

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it's a way of thinking

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logical thinking

One of many.

This isn't exactly the place to bash religion. If you are going to do so, at least state things with a modicum of respect and reasoning.

I mean

2:18 AM

I don't think all religion is bad

Regardless.

Whether or not we agree with you isn't really relevant, what's relevant is that discussing religion here isn't relevant.

Oh ok

Regarding tulpas, you mentioned that you plan to try to make one - I strongly advise against making a decision the day you learn about them.

I'm just reading the book right now

2:19 AM

I read a lot

Definitely do some research, perhaps browse some peoples' https://community.tulpa.info/forum-progress-reports Progress Reports

Tulpa Forums - Progress Reports

A place to record progress with your tulpa.

Making a tulpa is a permanent decision that does have a significant effect on your life.

2:19 AM

Please treat it with the significance it deserves.

Reading other peoples' starting out experiences is probably a good idea too, not just reading guides.

Yeah that's true

2:20 AM

ill probably read about it for a week

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then make a decision

That sounds a lot better.

I like the overall idea though, it makes sense

You can always decide to make a tulpa, but you can't particularly decide to "unmake" one.

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So - take your time. You have your entire life to make a decision.

You can, but it's rather rude, unethical by most's standards, and heavily discouraged.

...not to mention it is effectively impossible to do once a tulpa is capable of thinking on their own.

Also, not really a permanent thing, since dissipation of a tulpa amounts to not much more than ignoring them until they've faded.

Once a tulpa can think on their own and reinforce themselves as existing, they can keep themselves 'alive' regardless of what the host does (though, to be clear - that isn't a particularly easy or pleasant thing for them to do).

Ethically, it's roughly equivalent to killing another person, albeit an entirely internal affair.

2:23 AM

That depends on the system too - we can't force ourselves to be active without the person who is fronting's intent.

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As in, if they wanted us not to be active and ignored us, we couldn't really fight that. But obviously that's never been the case.

2:24 AM

But, other tulpas are known to make themselves known to their hosts, so it really depends.

Mm. It's possible to think, but communication may not necessarily be possible if the host is 'covering their ears', so to speak.

I have a "tulpa" that's entirely independent

4:08 AM

no headmates. Never have been.

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She's always sort of been an entirely different individual. always been alone in my head

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Find that is...unsusual for most people